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Canine Distemper-The Dog Killer! [Please Read THIS before putting your Dog to sleep]

By Adam Conrad | Last Updated August 21, 2021

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What Is Canine Distemper?

EVEN IF YOU DON’T HAVE TIME TO READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE, PLEASE JUST READ THIS SECTION HERE ABOUT Alternative Treatments for Canine Distemper, BEFORE YOU ALLOW THE VET TO KILL YOUR DOG!!!

If you have comments or additional information please leave them in the comments section, I do read them all!!

Here is some feedback from on of our readers…

Good Morning!

My Dog Luke got bit by rattlesnake while there i asked vets to make sure he had his shots they were then past due by a few months i put trust in them they did it well no i got Luke home from a week stay at vet from snake bite he regressed not even 2 days being home.

Took him back in they said he had distemper he needed be put down…n now they said.
I refused something told me that this dog can survive and i was going take all measures to make sure he does.
3 more visits to vet on our last options he has gone from a 87 lbs American bulldog pure muscle n strong to a frail 40 lbs maybe..

I thought id have to have him go to heaven see pops but i seen ur post. I got this yesterday n after one dose last nite he was not as wobbly and muscles seemed stronger sleeping alit still i want him to he takes every step i take poor gut but he’s used to going to work with me to shower to do everything.

What Is Canine Distemper

Contents

  • 1 What Is Canine Distemper?
  • 2 Can Humans catch Distemper from Dogs or other animals? {is CDV zoonotic?}
  • 3 A Dog suffering from Canine Distemper Virus (CDV)
  • 4 Canine Distemper Virus (CDV)
  • 5 Signs Of Distemper
  • 6 Distemper Symptoms {what is it called the hard pad disease?}
  • 7 Can A Dog Survive Distemper?
  • 8 Diagnosing Canine Distemper
  • 9 Treatment for Canine Distemper
  • 10 Alternative Treatments for distemper – Please try these before you let them put your dog to sleep!
  • 11 Canine Distemper Vaccine
  • 12 Can A Fully Vaccinated Dog Get Distemper?
  • 13 Can a dog can get distemper twice?
  • 14 Should I vaccinate my dog after she has recovered from Distemper [CDV Virus]
  • 15 Where To Buy Distemper Vaccine
  • 16 Distemper In Humans
  • 17 References

Canine Distemper Main

Can Humans catch Distemper from Dogs or other animals? {is CDV zoonotic?}

Distemper is a viral disease/infection that affects a whole host of species, such as dogs, wolves, coyotes and foxes. Despite being commonly called Canine Distemper, it also affects animals outwith the canine family, such as raccoons, wild cats, ferrets, pandas, skunks and many more. Domesticated dogs have also been responsible for spreading this disease through wild populations and distemper has played a significant role in the extinction and endangerment of several wild species.

But don’t worry the canine distemper virus (CDV) cannot pass from animals to humans. So CDV is not a zoonotic disease.
reference:
Martinez-Gutierrez M, Ruiz-Saenz J. Diversity of susceptible hosts in canine distemper virus infection: a systematic review and data synthesis. BMC Veterinary Research. 2016;12:78. doi:10.1186/s12917-016-0702-z.

Distemper is a systemic infection, affecting the eyes, gastrointestinal system, brain function, respiratory system and central nervous system (CNS). It’s highly infectious and, as a virus, has no cure. Around half of all cases are fatal, making it the most deadly canine virus after rabies worldwide.

A Dog suffering from Canine Distemper Virus (CDV)

Canine Distemper Virus (CDV)

Distemper is caused by a Paramyxoviridae virus called Canine Distemper Virus (CDV). The Paramyxoviridae family, more specifically, the Morbillivirus class. This includes viruses that are responsible for measles, mumps and bronchitis and is made up of negative-sense single stranded RNA. This means that when it enters the cell of its host, the viral RNA uses the host’s replication pathway (how we turn out DNA into proteins) to replicate itself. Negative-sense RNA is complementary to the mRNA needed to translate it into protein and since it’s already single stranded, the viral RNA doesn’t have to break apart to be transcribed. It simply inserts itself into the transcription pathway and sends copies of itself to the golgi apparatus where proteins are synthesised and excreted into our bodies.

CDV generally replicates in the respiratory tract lymphatic system before moving into the bloodstream after around 3 days. This causes a reduction of lymph nodes, resulting in immunosuppression. From there, it moves through the body to infect the gastrointestinal tract, urinary tract, eyes and central nervous system (CNS). Once in the CNS, and with no immune system to fight it off, the virus can cause inflammation in the brain, called encephalitis, and demyelination, which is the removal of myelin sheaths on the nerve cells. Without the myelin sheaths, nerve cells are not able to properly communicate with each other or other tissues, therefore you will see a reduction in mobility as they can’t communicate with muscles, sensation and cognitive function.

The CDV is most often transmitted through aerosols. This means that it travels through the air in water droplets and gets inhaled by a host. It can be spread through bodily fluids such as blood transfusions from infected animals to healthy ones, but also more easily through contact with nasal fluids, ocular secretions, urine and faeces. The virus is able to survive for short amounts of time outwith the host, so food and water contaminated with the virus can also be a method of transmission. Food and proper nutrition play a vital role in keeping your pup healthy and happy. Please take some time to read our comprehensive guide about the best dog food here

Signs Of Distemper

Signs Of Canine Distemper
The incubation period for CDV is 14-18 days, so you won’t see symptoms straight away, other than perhaps a fever, which begins 3-7 days after infection. If you were to get a blood test done at this stage, the results would show a low white blood cell (WBC) count, especially the lymphocytes, and low platelets. This is a major sign that something is very wrong as the WBCs are responsible for immune responses. If your dog has a fever, it has an infection and its immune system should be hyperactive, showing high WBC counts, not low. The initial fever will only last for about 4 days before disappearing. By day 12 of infection, however, it will reappear and will last for at least a week.

Distemper Symptoms {what is it called the hard pad disease?}

The symptoms of distemper, like many viral infections, can be rather vague and difficult to diagnose as a particular disease. They include fever, which is seen in all infections; gastrointestinal issues like vomiting, diarrhea and loss of appetite; inflammation; discharge from the eyes and nose (Nose and eye discharge are called Ocular discharge) similar to the symptoms in Conjunctivitis; respiratory issues such as coughing and difficulty breathing; lethargy and footpads and noses becoming hard.

Because of this hardening of the footpads, which is non-reversible, the disease is often referred to as the hard pad disease. It’s always a good idea to check footpads when you groom your pup! Also use the appropriate dog clippers to keep the fur on feet and around feet, pads, and eyes to a minimum for quick and easy access for inspections (These are the places where ticks also like to hide!). We have several guides starting with clippers for general use and for specific breeds, clippers for matted fur or for thick hair etc or clippers for specific body sizes.

There is also often secondary bacterial infections due to the compromised immune system. These animal distemper symptoms make it difficult to diagnose as they are also the same symptoms of several other infections.

Once the disease reaches the CNS, you’ll start seeing symptoms such as muscle spasms and twitching and even seizures. The seizures will look like your dog is chewing on nothing and it will produce an excess of saliva. If the distemper is not treated, the seizures will get worse, finally resulting in full body convulsions and death. Due to the demyelination, you will start to see a lack of coordination in an infected dog that may also start walking in circles and lose motor control.

There will be an increase in sensitivity to almost all stimuli, such as light sensitivity and a hypersensitivity to touch, so that a gentle touch will cause pain where it never used to. These signs may start showing as easy as 10 days after infection or may be latent for several weeks. This depends on the immune system of the infected dog.

Can A Dog Survive Distemper?

Can A Dog Survive Distemper

Around half of adult dogs who get distemper and who are treated quickly will survive the infection. This is less true for puppies, who are more susceptible to the meningitis that comes with the infection as well as the secondary infections that get in once the immune system is compromised. Only about 20% of infected puppies will survive dog distemper.

Adult dogs who do survive canine distemper infections will often be left with long lasting, though non-life-threatening, issues. Most will retain a small twitch that should become less severe over time, but which will likely never go away. The hardening of the foot pads and nose is also non-reversible.  Puppies who survive tend to have issues with their teeth as the virus kills the cells responsible for creating the enamel coating on new teeth. Any that have not yet formed an enamel coat or that have not yet made it through the gums will not produce the required protection and will crumble quickly, leaving the dog without teeth.

Depending on the severity of the infection before it was cured, there is a chance that even once the virus is gone, the infected dog has sustained too much damage to survive. Severe damage and degradation to the CNS can’t be fixed once it’s occurred and a deterioration in motor skills and cognitive ability is inevitable. The seizures will continue and get worse and eventually the dog will suffer paralysis and blindness. In these cases, the best thing to do is to humanely put the dog to sleep. BUT PLEASE READ THE SECTION HERE ABOUT Alternative Treatments for distemper!!!

The high fatality rate and permanent canine distemper symptoms that last after the infection is cleared make distemper quite a dangerous infection for dogs of all ages.

Diagnosing Canine Distemper

Diagnosing Canine Distemper
Many of the signs of distemper are very difficult to distinguish from other canine viral infections such as parvovirus and canine hepatitis. The main symptoms that will give away distemper are the hardening of the foot pads and the neurological signs.

Once at the vet, the best way to diagnose distemper and differentiate it from other viral infections is by finding the virus in the foot pads, eyes or bladder. This is done by taking some cells from these areas and staining them with a stain called Dif-Quick. Any distemper virus in the sample will stain a bright red colour to give a positive diagnosis.

If you see these symptoms and you’re wondering “does my dog have distemper?”, take it to the vet immediately and ask for these tests to be done. Once you know what’s wrong with your dog, you can start treating it as quickly as possible. This is the best way to ensure a good recovery.

Treatment for Canine Distemper

Treatment for Canine Distemper
Because it’s a viral infection, there is no treatment for canine distemper. The nature of viruses is that they get into the host cells and then use the host mechanics to replicate. This means that there is nothing for the immune system or drugs to target. In bacterial infections, for example, we can target the proteins in the bacterial cell wall. These are called lipopolysaccharides (LPS) and are not made by anything other than bacteria. The immune system recognises them as foreign and we can target drugs to recognise them and destroy cells containing them. We can not do this with viruses without also targeting the same particles from the host cells, which would lead to all cells being destroyed and death of the host.

The only treatment for distemper is managing the symptoms and trying to prevent further damage. This involves giving painkillers, administering fluids and electrolytes to make sure the infected dog stays hydrated, giving anticonvulsants to stop seizures and broad spectrum antibiotics to avoid secondary infections. Giving antibiotics for distemper is not to treat distemper. Antibiotics have no effect on viral infections, which is why you should not be taking them for colds or flus. Due to the compromised immune system that occurs with a distemper infection, opportunistic bacteria jump on the chance to infect a susceptible host and you will often find pneumonia as presenting during a distemper infection. Although not caused by the distemper, it is because of the distemper that this happens.

Alternative Treatments for distemper – Please try these before you let them put your dog to sleep!

Alternative Treatments for distemper
In humans, there have been many studies done on using Vitamin A to treat measles. Since the CDV is from the same family and is molecularly similar to the measles virus, this treatment was tested on CDV in ferrets. The study found that the ferrets who were given high doses of Vitamin A after infection with CDV produced only a mild rash in response to infection, as opposed to the control group. The control group were also infected with CDV, but were not given the high dose Vitamin A treatment and they developed much more severe symptoms, including conjunctivitis, fever, cough, rash and diarrhea. The mechanism that Vitamin A uses against the CDV is still unknown so more study needs to be done, but as a symptomatic treatment, high dose Vitamin A has shown to be quite effective.

Ribavirin is an antiviral drug that has shown some promising effects against CDV. It’s been shown to eliminate 50% of the viral DNA from infected cells, but this was tested on infected cell cultures rather than on an infected living host. There is a concern that once CDV crosses the blood-brain barrier and enters the CNS, ribavirin will not be able to follow it. It’s also quite a harsh drug and causes damage to the digestive tissue and may even result in leukemia.

It was found in 1966 that CDV is sensitive to ether, which can be used as an anaesthetic. Several dogs with severe canine distemper were treated with ether by getting them to breathe it in for 15 minutes to become anaesthetised. This was repeated again 48 hours later and all of the dogs made a full recovery. Around the same time, treatment with ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) was also being tested. One particular study by Dr. Wendell Belfield treated 12 dogs and cats that already presented with canine distemper with Vitamin C in the form of Scorbate. All 12 subjects made a full recovery, including several puppies of 6 weeks to 9 months old, which is the most susceptible age for encephalitis and death. Only around 20% of puppies with CDV survive.
All of the animals showed a quick recovery, some showing results in as little as 12 hours and others becoming completely healthy in a week. Only one of the dogs showed neurological symptoms and while it’s recommended to use Vitamin C as a treatment before the infection gets this far, that dog did still make a full recovery. Since then many other vets have also given it as part of distemper treatment, as well as for various other illnesses and diseases that are life threatening, and have seen full recoveries in their patients. It needs to be given in large doses and can be administered intravenously or by ingestion.

Although dogs, unlike humans, make their own Vitamin C, they generally don’t get very much of it. It’s therefore important to make sure that it’s part of your dog’s diet. Vitamin C is hugely important in making sure that the immune system is working optimally. It’s most likely that the Vitamin C given to the dogs with distemper helps the immune system to fight off the viral infection and protect the host cells rather than interacting directly with the virus.

Most vets and scientists would agree that the best way to protect your dog from distemper is by vaccinating it and avoiding infection in the first place.

Canine Distemper Vaccine

Canine Distemper Vaccine
The distemper vaccine was first invented in 1923, but was not commercially developed for another 27 years. It is not widely used and obviously hasn’t been administered to wild populations so distemper is still a widespread issue for dog owners. Unvaccinated dogs can spread the virus in areas where many dogs interact, such as at dog parks or pet shelters.

The vaccine for canine distemper is an attenuated live vaccine, meaning that it contains the CDV, but a modified version that doesn’t cause disease. It’s also possible to get a modified version of the measles virus, whereby that virus has part of the CDV inserted into it to activate an immune response. Studies have shown that this recombinant vaccine actually produces a greater antibody response. Mostly likely this is because the measles vaccine and CDV are from the same family. It can be used as a booster vaccine and significantly increases antibody production in dogs previously vaccinated with the modified CDV.

Due to the immune response to the virus particles in the vaccine, your dog may display some mild canine distemper symptoms like fever, lethargy and loss of appetite as well as irritation at the site of the injection. These are not things to worry about, unless they become severe or don’t go away after a few days.

Puppies should receive their vaccinations at around 6-8 weeks old. Distemper is one of the vaccines that your puppy should be getting, along with others like canine hepatitis, parvovirus and parainfluenza.These are often given as a combination vaccine, with several viruses all combined into one shot. This vaccine is most commonly referred to as DHPP, but there are other combinations with different acronyms available. Following that, distemper booster vaccines are needed every couple of weeks for the next 8 weeks. Without these booster, your puppy won’t get the full dosage of vaccine and it won’t be properly immunised. Any puppies get their first vaccines while still with their breeder as they’re not usually separated from the mother until they’re 10 weeks old. After this, many dog owners don’t bother keeping up with the boosters, leaving their dog susceptible to infection.

Some people wonder are distemper shots necessary for dogs and are we over vaccinating our pets? The same question is often asked in regards to vaccination shots for human babies too. While this is a question of some moral controversy, the science points to a simple “Yes”. Vaccines work. They prevent disease and in some cases have even eradicate diseased from populations, like smallpox in humans. Distemper is a serious infection that is just as likely to kill your dog as not and even if your dog survives, it could be permanently damaged. The risks of vaccines are so small that it’s almost negligible compared to the horrific suffering distemper will cause to your beloved pet. The distemper vaccine is essential to the health of your puppy once the immunity it receives from its mother fades away. While it’s not legally required in the USA, it’s highly recommended.

Can A Fully Vaccinated Dog Get Distemper?

Can A Fully Vaccinated Dog Get Distemper
This question may seem like a straightforward yes or no type question, but there is a little more to it than that. When you receive a vaccination, your body is being exposed to a pathogen in order to create an immune response. This is called the primary response as it’s the first time your immune system has seen this pathogen. The point of a booster is so that you then create a secondary response. After your body is exposed to a pathogen, it creates a host of immune cells to fight that pathogen off. These are cells such as macrophages that ingest the pathogen and infected cells, break them down and absorb or dispose of the components; T-cells that produce chemicals to cause inflammation and cell death to protect you from further infection and B-cells that produce antibodies that recognise the foreign particles and alert your body to their presence. Each antibody is unique to a particular part of a pathogen, called an antigen. Then, once your immune system had gotten rid of the infection, some of these B-cells are stored away in a library of all the antigens you’ve ever been exposed to.

If you ever come into contact with an antigen that you’ve previously had contact with, your body doesn’t have to make antibodies to it from scratch. The B-cells recognise it quickly, inform the immune system that it’s back and the correct response is produces much faster than the first time round. This means that the infection is cleared out of your system much quicker than before and you may have few, less severe of no symptoms from the secondary infection. A tertiary infection is then dealt with even more efficiently.

In dogs, immunity works in exactly the same way. Once your dog has been fully vaccinated and received its booster, it is still possible that your dog will get distemper. If it has received the full vaccination though, it should be able to fight off the virus pretty effectively and not be at risk of any severe symptoms or side effects. You may not even know that your dog has distemper and the immune system is perfectly equipped to deal with it. However, if there is an underlying cause for the infection, such as compromised immune system from another infection or illness, then it may be more serious.

The other reason that a dog may present with distemper after being fully vaccinated is that it already had the virus before it got the vaccine. If you get a rescue dog from a shelter, there is a huge probability that it’s been exposed to CDV. As a responsible dog owner, you would immediately get your new dog vaccinated, but it may already be too late. As you know now, the symptoms don’t present until more than a week after infection so it could have been there from before you brought your new dog home. In this case, the vaccine has come too late and won’t do an awful lot of good. This is also the main way that a puppy can get distemper after being vaccinated.

Although it’s incredibly rare, it is also possible for a dog or puppy to contract distemper from the vaccine. However, most vets who have been treating dogs for several decades have never seen this happen. Theoretically, it is possible, but the chances of it happening are minimal.

Can a dog can get distemper twice?

After having distemper, it’s similar to getting the vaccine. If the virus manages to infect the same dog again, the immune response will activate much quicker and deal with the infection more effectively as it’s a secondary response. It works with almost all other viral infections. The reason why you don’t find this in many studies is because it is a general rule in immunology (like the fact that 1+1=2, you don’t find references for this).

Should I vaccinate my dog after she has recovered from Distemper [CDV Virus]

Should I vaccinate my dog after she has recovered
A quick question from a reader… about vaccinating a dog who is Recovering from CDV…..
My 3 year old German shepherd mix suffered from canine distemper. Her symptoms were very bad, she got tremors in her head and twitches and couldn’t get up for a week. My vet told me there was a 50% chance of survival. I decided to try and treat her and she’s doing so much better now (aside from hearing loss). I’m so happy I took the risk. I just have one question. Should I vaccinate my dog after she has recovered

Here is the answer/s from our Doctor of Veterinary Medicine

  • Well, recovering from a disease is the most powerful vaccination she can ever get. But remember that she is immunized only against CDV.
  • Standard vaccines are polyvalent. They protect against multiple viruses. So, it is recommended to stick to the standard vaccination schedule to get her protected against other opportunistic pathogens.
  • Why we repeat vaccination: vaccination’s goal is the production of antibodies. With time, antibodies level decease in the organism and we should boost it through revaccination every year just like humans.
[Please read our general disclaimer about us why you should consult your own vet!]

Where To Buy Distemper Vaccine

Where To Buy Distemper Vaccine
Of course, you can buy distemper vaccine from your vet directly. He can also administer the vaccine and boosters for you, but if you prefer to vaccinate your dog at home, you can also buy distemper vaccine online as part of the combination vaccine. Many sites will also supply you with syringes, sterile needles and all accessories you need to do this. Obviously, the price of the vaccine will vary from site to site, but the average cost of distemper vaccine seems to be around $80 when you buy it as part of the combination virus. Depending on what you get and where, you can spend a couple of hundred dollars on your puppies vaccines. Please also make sure that you research the site that you’re buying from and make sure the vaccine is effective, sterile and going to be transported properly. This particular vaccine needs to be refrigerated at all times or else the viruses will die and you won’t get the proper immune response from it to provide the protection you paid for.

Distemper In Humans

Distemper In Humans

Since distemper is so closely related to the measles virus, many scientists think that it’s actually a mutated form of measles that altered its genome in order to infect a new set of hosts. Because of this incredible similarity, it is possible for it to replicate in human cells. However, it does not become symptomatic so you will not get sick by picking up distemper from your dog. So distemper is not a zoonotic disease. A human’s resistance to canine distemper could be, in part, from the measles vaccines that we get as children. Studies have found that the same antibody response is produced in the presence of measles in humans and canine distemper in rabbits. However, it is most likely that the virus has mutated just enough that it no longer produces symptoms in humans as our immune system is able to suppress it quickly.

This is not true the other way around. If you are carrying CDV asymptomatically, you are able to pass it to your pooch and cause disease. Humans are also able to carry the disease through the environment on their clothing or shoes or even on their skin. It’s then possible to pass the virus to your dog like this.
If your pet has distemper, you must make sure that you thoroughly clean its environment to stop it spreading to any other dogs you have (it can’t spread to cats) or out into the world to other dogs, such as at dog parks or neighbours that share your building.

Disinfect dog bowls and feeding areas as the virus is spread through saliva and can pass through contaminated food and water. Change the water frequently to get rid of any virus particles that may be swimming in there.

Also disinfect any toys that your dog picks up with its mouth or tends to chew on. Keeping the environment really clean is the best way to keep the virus as contained as you can. However, this will not stop it spreading as it’s transmitted through the air so you do still need to vaccinate all of your pets.

Canine distemper infographic

Canine Distemper-The Dog Killer

References

Khoo C, Cunnick J, Friesen K, Gross KL, Wedekind K, Jewell DE. The role of supplementary dietary antioxidants on immune response in puppies. Vet Ther. 2005;6(1):43–56.

Jalil Benyacoub, Gail L. Czarnecki-Maulden, Christoph Cavadini, Thérèse Sauthier, Rachel E. Anderson, Eduardo J. Schiffrin, Thierry von der Weid; Supplementation of Food with Enterococcus faecium (SF68) Stimulates Immune Functions in Young Dogs, The Journal of Nutrition, Volume 133, Issue 4, 1 April 2003, Pages 1158–1162, https://doi.org/10.1093/jn/133.4.1158

Satyaraj, E., Reynolds, A., Pelker, R., Labuda, J., Zhang, P., & Sun, P. (2013). Supplementation of diets with bovine colostrum influences immune function in dogs. British Journal of Nutrition, 110(12), 2216-2221. doi:10.1017/S000711451300175X

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Comments

  1. Yi Jing says

    November 3, 2017 at 8:19 am

    Hi,my 4 year old dog got distemper… I give my dog 2 vitamin c tablets every 6 hours Each pill is 1000mg. Is it enough ? If I stop the serum that given by vet.. and just feed my dog vitamin c.. will it recover ?

    Reply
    • admin says

      November 6, 2017 at 11:26 pm

      Please continue the treatment recommended by your vet. If you are not sure about their advice then by all means seek a second opinion from another vet.

      Reply
  2. Lynnae Schloneger says

    January 31, 2018 at 12:38 am

    what is the dosage amount of Vitamin C and.Vitamin A…all it says is high dosage…what would that be please

    Reply
    • admin says

      February 1, 2018 at 7:29 am

      Please continue the treatment recommended by your vet. If you are not sure about their advice then by all means seek a second opinion from another vet.

      https://belfield.com/pdfs/VitaminC.pdf
      Has some clinical evidence of efficacy. So, it has a significative outcome
      It is the same Vitamin C as for humans [(Ascorbic acid) for all living species]. 1000 mg or more
      Vitamin C , dosage is between 500-1000 mg per dog per 24h, orally
      Yes Vitamin A is also effective, it has a protective effect to the skin (epithelium)
      Do you have a dog with CD ? (canine distemper) ? if so Please continue the treatment recommended by your vet.

      Reply
  3. Shruti says

    February 3, 2018 at 3:13 pm

    My 8 year old Pomeranian has got canine distemper.We belong to a small city,there no resources available regarding dogs.I had taken him to veterinarian at the capital of my state.He said he couldn’t do anything.I can’t afford to take my dog anywhere else.What should I do? Does he would be feeling pain? Please help

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    • admin says

      February 3, 2018 at 5:31 pm

      Is there a local vet who can advice you?
      I will consult our vet and explore the options that you might have!

      Reply
  4. Jessica Ragusin says

    February 4, 2018 at 4:56 am

    https://youtu.be/LxpOgczdEfg. This is a video of my dog. He’s been having head spasms for almost 2 weeks straight. He has them all day, both awake and asleep, seeming to stop only when he is under stress or mentally stimulated. Had blood work done for a different condition and vet wasn’t very concerned of distemper. His nose has been dry, with shallowed breathing. He is currently on muscle relaxers that have not helped. Any thoughts?

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    • admin says

      February 4, 2018 at 12:18 pm

      can you get a 2nd opinion from another local vet?
      I will check with our vet.

      Reply
  5. Ronellie D. Lagare says

    February 12, 2018 at 8:51 am

    i have a 1 yr old golden retriever and diagnosed she has CDV, she already experienced head spasms for almost a week and she cant move her jaw with excess saliva, with her eyes full of tears, she is not eating and breathing a bit deeper, she can walk but a bit tired, she already receive antibiotic and also receive dextrose for a day since she was not eating. but the vet is telling me that my loved dog don’t have any chance to recover and should have my dog to sleep because i still have another dog and might be infected too. i trust my vet so i agree on her option. its really hard for me to let go of her since i already loved her that much. but its always a question in my mind if i did the right decision spending lot of night and days crying and missing her. am i wrong with agreeing my vet?

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    • Ronellie D. Lagare says

      February 12, 2018 at 9:01 am

      agreeing with vet because i dont want to see my dog in pain and she mentioned that as time goes my dog will be experiencing more pain. i feel so sad and think that i am so selfish for allowing my dog to endure the pain. please help me clear up my mind.

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    • admin says

      February 14, 2018 at 7:45 pm

      can you get a 2nd opinion from another local vet?
      once you have explored all options, try the alternative treatment, but please make sure that it’s your decision.
      We have listed the clinical study, and the efficacy of it, so your dog might have a chance.
      Again please consult a qualified vet, I am not one, and I do not play one on the Internet.
      I am sorry about your pup..
      Also please get the other dog checked ASAP.
      Why were these dogs not vaccinated?

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  6. Leo says

    March 15, 2018 at 2:35 pm

    My 6 month old Doberman, Lucky, was diagnosed with Distemper almost two weeks ago. At first I thought he chewed plastic and got it stucked on his throat since he was coughing and drooling heavily. I know our family vet doesn’t have radiology equipment so we immediately brought him to an animal hospital to have xrays… seeing that there was no foreign object lodged on his esophagus, they performed a blood tests. From the results they suspected he had Distemper so they went to have the CDV test on him and it resulted to positive. Immediately the hospital wanted to discharge him and offered several options to treat his condition including to put him down. I told them that I’ll take care of my Lucky… we went home that night and since it was already too late, we requested our family vet to do a house call the next morning. He checked on my Lucky and performed another CDV test just to confirm. Then he gave him a serum and prescribed several meds to take and an A/D diet.. With his daily meds, I added Yakult and Mondex plus some multi vitamins. I think he’s getting better and growing stronger each day. I’m glad I got help from our vet. Lucky will soon recover and I can’t wait to play with him.

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    • admin says

      March 15, 2018 at 8:15 pm

      Thanks so much for sharing with us Leo 🙂 VERY GLAD to hear Lucky is doing well and on his way to a full recovery!
      You do have a great Vet too, but above all WELL DONE for doing the right thing!
      Adam

      Reply
    • Melissa says

      April 30, 2018 at 4:45 pm

      Sir/madam,what are those multivitamina?my vet told me that ill just wait for a miracle if i dont wnt them to put my shih to sleep.so worried i keep on.looking at her talking to her that if she cant ease the pain she better leave but if she wants to live i hope its the soonest.i miss her bark.i miss her greetings everytime i open our gate after i came from work

      Reply
      • admin says

        May 2, 2018 at 12:24 am

        Sorry to hear Melissa 🙁
        Is it possible to get a 2nd opinion form another vet?
        It’s probably not a good idea to ask your pup though.

        Reply
  7. Rin says

    March 18, 2018 at 4:31 am

    My 3 year old German shepherd mix suffered from canine distemper. Her symptoms were very bad, she got tremors in her head and twitches and couldn’t get up for a week. My vet told me there was a 50% chance of survival. I decided to try and treat her and she’s doing so much better now (aside from hearing loss). I’m so happy I took the risk. I just have one question. Should I vaccinate my dog after she has recovered?

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    • admin says

      March 20, 2018 at 8:00 pm

      Hi Rin,
      Thanks you so much for sharing the good news with us 🙂 Very gland to hear your pup is recovering 🙂
      Here is the response from our Dr, https://shihtzuexpert.com/canine-distemper/#vaccinateAfteRecovered I included this is the main article along with your question because it might help others as well!
      Adam

      Reply
  8. Jenn says

    March 28, 2018 at 2:48 pm

    We have one puppy that has and shows the signs of distemper. The puppy that has it has bad eye discharge and is drooling bad and is showing the neurological signs such as walking in circles and head shaking. The other puppy acts perfectly normal and we have been keeping him away from the other puppy. Both puppies are 9 weeks old and have been vaccinated at 6 and again at 8 and wormed regulary. We have been keeping the sick puppies eyes as clean as possible and giving his doses of vitamin C and giving him plenty of fluids. What would cause one puppy to show such awful signs and have this disease, and the other puppy seem perfectly normal?

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    • admin says

      March 28, 2018 at 9:16 pm

      Hi Jenn,
      I am sorry to hear about the puppy!
      Here is the answer from our DVM (Please read our disclaimer at the bottom of the page about consulting your own vet!)
      There are many factors that make a puppy contract a disease and others don’t. These can be divided into external and external factors according to the puppy’s body.

      But given that both puppies were raised together, it’s more like that the sick one has a poor immunity. That’s probably due to:

      1- lack of antibodies in his blood following an insufficient colostrum intake compared to his brother

      2- the virus may have been transmitted from the mother to the puppy through placenta during gestation. This could happen because many adult dogs shed the virus and aren’t necessarily sick.

      2- severe exposure to the virus. Even in the same environment, exposure to bugs is variant among puppies.

      Distemper is epidemic. It happens even in top clean environments. It may regress with time but once neurological signs appear, they will be lifelong.
      Adam

      Reply
  9. raven says

    April 1, 2018 at 5:41 pm

    My 7 mos pug has been diagnose with a distemper. He have one shot of 5 in 1 vaccine but the vet told me that we should have given him 3 to 4 shot of vaccine because the 1st shot would be effective if there’s no follow up. I first notice his sickness when he stop eating and he is very weak not playful then we brought him to the vet. The vet though it was only a cold so she gave us an anti biotic. She told me that I should observe my dog if he will tremble or shiver then if yes I should go back because it might be distemper. 3 days after my dog started to vomit and shiver thats why I brought him back to the vet and confirmed it is a distemper. Now we are treating him give him b complex, immunot and an anti biotic. But everyday I see another symptom showing up. His head is startinh to twitch now and his mouth is chewing with out food. Also notice his excesive drooling. I am think if my medication to him is enough or working. What do you think I should do? My vet doesnt reply to me that often everytime I update her about my dog that’s why it makes me very paranoid. It’s been to weeks now since he has been diagnose. As of now he can walk and be normal but very weak. I don’t want to see another symptoms showing. I want to prevent it as much as posible.

    Is yakult safe?

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    • admin says

      April 9, 2018 at 1:38 pm

      Raven, Here is the reply from our DVM, please note that you do not rely only on this advice, please read our disclaimer about our advice.

      Hi there!

      So, We are sorry that this client has had this experience with her vet. But unfortunately, There are no effective drugs to deter Distemper in dogs and vaccination remains the most effective way to prevent the propagation and infection of puppies.

      But in worst case scenarios like your case, You should follow some measures to alleviate the symptoms and boost the dog immune system to try to tackle the disease. In other words, we have to wait for the dog immune system to combat the infection but unfortunately, nothing is guaranteed.

      1- Make sure your dog eats and drinks the same amount of food and water he was used to. The dog SHOULD EAT to support his vital functions and produce immune substances “antibodies” that fight the virus. This process requires a protein-rich diet. Since he is reluctant to eat or drink, hand-feed him and make him drink with a syringe. Liquid diets are preferred here since they are easy to administer. (Make a mixture of boiled rice water with some sugar and salt. Eggs are a good source of proteins. You have also moist foods which are are also appetizing try them out !). Vitamin-complex pills may be useful or just give him foods rich with vitamins like tuna, fish oil, fresh vegs, …etc

      2- Keep the dog in a warm place, watch out for hypothermia. and regularly clear the discharge from his eyes and nose.

      3- Continue giving him his medicines as prescribed by your vet and keep a close eye on him. Antibiotics help prevent any opportunistic bacterial infections. If your dog shows other symptoms, then you should take him to vet to get additional medications. But keep in mind that these not virus-killing drugs, they only stop symptoms like seizures or vomiting.

      4- Is Yakult safe? We really hope so. All you have to do now is wait and see. But let me give you an idea, Distemper is not highly lethal but statistically, It’s the second cause of mortality in dogs induced by infectious disease. Don’t be fooled with this facts. All you have to do is abide by theese rules and have your fingers crossed.

      Wish you luck !

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  10. Rahat says

    April 13, 2018 at 7:46 pm

    Hi,
    My seven months old dog, woody, has been diagnosed with CDV. He has shown some symptoms of the virus such as fever, cough, nose and pad hardening, diarrhea, sneezing and redness of the eyes. Last week most of the symptoms disappeared. Is this a sign that he is cured or the virus can still attack his nervous system? I was told by the vet that he will develop seizures and the week after he will die.

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    • admin says

      April 14, 2018 at 8:30 pm

      Here is the reply from our DVM, please note that you do not rely only on this advice, please read our disclaimer about our advice.

      According to our DVM Yes, most likely he will make it 🙂

      Reply
  11. cj says

    April 21, 2018 at 1:41 pm

    I am so glad I found this blog. I have two dogs who got cdv. a 5 year old Shih Tzu-dachshund mix who died after two weeks and the other one is a 5 year old female Lab who luckily survived it. She’s getting better
    now, but has this crazy head tremors even when she’s asleep. I have a lot of questions to ask

    1. Is there any cure/remedy for the tremors she’s been experiencing?
    2. Is getting her vaccinated still worth it?
    3. Can CDV be transferred to a fully vaccinated dog upon mating?
    4. In case she get pregnant, will she automatically produce puppies with cdv?
    5. Will she still produce puppies with cdv even after getting her vaccinated?

    Thank you so much.

    Reply
  12. Gingeroo says

    April 23, 2018 at 7:38 pm

    We have a almost 3 months pup, ginger. She was diagnosed with distemper. She gets seizures for about 4 days now around 5-10 seizures a day.. is that normal? The vet didnt prescribe any seziure vets but gave vitamins and boosters.. she cries during sleep and upon waking up.. it breaks our heart.. what can we do to help her we are desperate for suggestions and ideas.. we love her so much we want her to feel better 🙁

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  13. Monte Pollard says

    April 29, 2018 at 5:48 am

    My 3 and a half year old dog contracted distemper. It is about a week in and i am beginning to give zinc, magnesium, milk thistle, liquid multivitamin, vit c, vit a. She is tremoring and it seems her eyes are seizure like. This is a waking nightmare. No vomiting or diarrhea. Eyes produce some mucous but not excess. Lethsrgic, painful and no appetite. Fever for 2+ days. I’m so very scared. All because i didnt vaccinate her. I need guidance.. i love her more than life.. begin light detox in 5 days.

    Reply
    • admin says

      April 30, 2018 at 3:01 pm

      Please consult a qualified veterinarian ASAP!

      Reply
  14. edgar says

    May 6, 2018 at 1:29 pm

    our dog has distemper and its sleep with us in and aircondition room? do we have to separate the dog ?

    Reply
  15. Rogelio says

    October 7, 2018 at 9:35 pm

    My dog was diagnosed with distemper and before she was wobbling and kept falling over, after I took her to the vet she was still wobbling and falling over but the vet said that it will get better over time, but now that 2 weeks have gone by my dog can not stand up at all, is shivering and has temor in head and twitches, I’m still giving her the medicine that was given to me by the vet but I don’t know if she will get any better, is this normal or is she really getting worse?

    Reply
  16. Bibiana Lopez says

    August 17, 2021 at 5:23 pm

    My dog starting walkong funny a mknth ago. Dry nose and congested eyes. Got tested and evrything was negative. Starting with vitamin B and fluids. A week later he got convulsions lome epileptic dog. I though he was going to die. He got PCR test and got negative from Distemper. Vet told us he had Distemper even though testing was showing negative. He was 2 weeks hospitalized and now he is at home. Vet told we would be deciding if he continues the way that he is or keep fighting with him. He is with Keppra to keep the convulsions away. He has twiching in his 4 legs. Has lost a lot of muscle mass and he can not even hold his head. He is under a lot of vitamins and homeopathic medicins. He eats and drink well. It is been over a month…wondering if he is going to make it.

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  17. Eileen Burnett says

    August 26, 2021 at 2:14 pm

    Hi!
    My 9 month old puppy seems to be recovering from distemper (now full of energy, eating beautifully and looks really healthy). I would like to know, how I can be sure that she is no longer contagious? She needs to go for walks, but I have obviously not taken her out and when I do I want to be sure that she it no longer a threat. Aside of this, she shows no symptomps of neurologica damage, but I understand that this could crop up months after “recovery”. When can I relax and feel that the danger to her neurological system is over and that she is fine? Thanks so very much!

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